Weighing the Pros and Cons of Evicting Jameka or Jen
As HoH, Dani has thrown the gauntlet, and over the next 72 hours, the house guests will have to make a decision. Dani's current goal is to get Jen evicted, as she is the most obvious threat in the house, but is Dani's reasoning sound? Who is really the bigger threat to Daniele? There are arguments to evicting both...
Remember, "There is no small enemy."
Arguments for Dani Evicting Jameka:
- She (and Amber) will likely re-align with Eric and Jessica, setting up another LNC majority with Jen's departure.
- Should Eric or Jess win the next HoH, Zach will go up, solidifying the above.
- She's extremely well liked.
- No one will beat Jameka in a final 2 situation, and this needs to be considered.
- She's perceived as a non-threat, because she can't compete in HoH's, so she will slide by until such time as she can and will win HoH, and by then, it will be too late.
Arguments for Dani evicting Jen:
- She's a proven and tremendous competitor.
- She can and will win HoH's and Veto Comps.
- She floats between alliances with ease.
- She has a major grudge against Dani with this nomination, and allowed to stay in the house, she will hold onto it until such time that she sees Dani evicted by her own hand.
- She's smart enough to talk her way out of anything, and she'll reveal this when she's backed into a corner... like now.
posted by CarolynBBDish @ 12:17 PM
48 Comments:
I think it's smartest to get rid of Jameka. Yeah she can't compete for HOH but I really see her & Amber getting back with Eric and Jessica. And Jen doesn't have anybody else really. Daniele could use her to her advantage. And plus I'd hate to sit next to Jameka. They might as well hand over the money.
But Daniele she is just playing personally. I was so happy to see them stay last week but whenever either one of the D's have power it's a huge waste.
It would be better for Dani to try to get Jameka out... but she has not voting right... it would be up to eric and jessica.. in the intrest if eric and jessica it would be that jen get voted out...
Well maybe Dani can use this to her advantage. Too bad she can't strike another deal with Jen saying they were really after Jameka but Dani also doesn't haven't to worry if Amber does get HOH since they made a deal too.
I just think that Dick and Dani can't stand her and they want her gone so I don't hold out much hope for some serious strategical thinking.
I think we should have Eric evict Jen because Jen is FOR SURE going to go after the Donatos no matter what happens... at least with Jameka theres no way she can get HOH
Eric's vote isn't his own so who's to say he'll be able to realign w/ the LNC in both word and deed. And, if he wins HoH who's to say he'll nominate those who he wants to nominate and/or that it'll be a detriment to D&D Eric as the AP is the true wild card.
it is beyond time for jen to say bye-bye. she should have been out the first time she sat in the hot seat. as for next to go.... please send cry-baby packing!!!
"I think we should have Eric evict Jen because Jen is FOR SURE going to go after the Donatos no matter what happens... at least with Jameka theres no way she can get HOH"
This isn't strategic thinking.
Plus, Eric and Jess should know that their chances of winning jurors are upped substantially if they're sitting w/ a Dani, Dick, or a Zach, definitely not an Amber or a Jameka.
At least they know that if they evict Amber, Jameka, and Jen they'll have their votes in the sequester house.
I think it was a dumb move to take Amber off the block... she should have left the nominations be....
i just think changing the nominations where a bad move all together, at least before, jen could've continued they were somewhat aligned and dani could've focused on her after getting jameka or amber out...oh well i guess, perhaps dani just likes having as many enemies as possible. i vote for dani any day, i just think shes messing her game up this hoh.
-erica
If Jen doesn't go this week, it will have been one of the biggest mistakes Dani has made thus far. Dani making a deal with Amber is another of her big mistakes. I'm thinking Dani is just a little too immature to be playing this game with any kind of strategy in mind.
When Jameka could compete she didn't THAT great.....Jen is good at competions and she has amazing will she has been on slop most of the time she has been in the house...that alone would slow someone down.... I think Jen should go because at least Dani has time to have other alliances Amber, Jameka, Zack....at this point I think once there is less HG she will make a deal with anyone... doesn't matter who..... But Jen will be determined to get them out....and she will do it... if she wins HOH Dick and Danielle will be her targets....
I think Dani should of left the nominees the way they were and vote out Amber. Jameka can't win HOH. Sure Jen is a big threat, but, at least she didn't have to strike a deal with her, cause now that could backfire on her. At least with Jen she could have had a chance to strike a deal with her. Jen is so mad now, that if she stays, im afraid she will go after the Donato's. What's done is done, and now they need to get Jen out. I'm sorry to say, but i don't trust America's Player, he is just a sneaky as Dustin. I hope that it works out for Dani's sake.
She (and Amber) will likely re-align with Eric and Jessica, setting up another LNC majority with Jen's departure.
Unless Amber or Jameka wins HOH, I don't think Eric and Jess are dumb enough to go after D & D as HOH. The only way the Turd Herd re-aligns, is if Amber or Jameka are in a position of power and then Jess & Eric try to do damage control, making deals with them. If they really wanted majority control for the LNC, they never would have kicked out Dustpan.
Should Eric or Jess win the next HoH, Zach will go up, solidifying the above.
And unless Eric and Jess are outright going to break their deal, Amber or Jameka will go up next to him. Then, all but one player competes in the POV. So if needed, they can take Zach off. And if they don't save him, they have the votes to force a 2-2 tie (unless Jess is the HOH, then America votes for Eric in a 3-1 decision).
Jen MUST go. She was already showing a greater preference to the Turd Herd over D & D, add in her bad blood with Dick, plus her new problem with Dani nominating her, also her ability to win challenges, and it all means she has to hit the bricks on Thursday.
Jen is a huge threat to the Donatos. Amber and Jameka have a small chance of getting HOH and if they do, they have just as much of a reason to put up Eric as they do either Dick or Daniele.
Vote Jen on Tuesday!!!
Anon @ 1:10pm- I beg to differ. If you want to see a HG too immature for BB--See: Carol. At, final 8, two-time HOH, multiple POV winner, Dani has proven she is not immature for Big Brother.
I agree with you, Jameka needs to go, but we have to remeber that Jen is close to Jessica as well.
Daniele should have dick vote to out Jameka, but they do not have the votes unless she made a deal with Amber. After all Amber did hint to her that she could offer her vote.
I really think Dick and Daniele are screwed unless Dick, or Zack wins the HOH this week.We need to be the vote of reason.
I know Eric is our player but lets face it, America would rather have Dick be our player, so we need to do what we can to keep Dick in the house.
I find myself wondering more and more just if AP can even win the HOH,Veto, or the game. He has had outside help and accourding to the rules of BB that is a big no no. Eric seems to lose every comp. So what do you think?
I think that this was by far the biggest mistake that Dani has made. All the reasons for voting Amber out are huge and out way any issues that she has had with Jen. Jen maybe annoying, but she really is trying to fit in with them, which is proven by the fact that she voted the way they wanted to last week (thus keeping Dani's dad), whereas Amber will screw Dani, Dick and Eric over in a heartbeat. The only savings grace is that Eric is trying to be America's Player, and what he does, so does Jess. I just hope that everyone stays aligned the way that they are now or else Dick and Dani will be going home very soon.
It will be interesting to see what happens this week. Jen has done a good job of talking herself out of eviction up to this point.
I can see both sides, but I think that Jen is the bigger threat right now.
We all want good entertainment, right?
So what Dani has decided about Jen is a done deal.
We should all try to keep things interesting by getting Eric to vote Jameka out.
Then the fireworks will go off among all the HGs.
Open field as alliances will be realigned.
With Jen still around, Zach, Amber could swing Jess and/or Eric and keep D&D on their toes.
Conversely, Jen may team up with D&D and Zach to break Jess and Eric up, leaving Amber to be tossed out later on.
All in all, it will be very interesting
If America wants to give Eric more power than he's ever had, they need to tell him to evict Jen. However, it will be critical for Eric or Jess to win HoH on Thursday. If Amber wins, all hell could break loose and America's Player could be heading home. It would be perfect for Dick and Dani to have Amber put Eric up and their hands would be clean. Dick, Dani and Zach all vote to evict Eric and he's gone!
I think the best game move would be to get rid of Jen. She is too dangerous of a player whose moves can not be predicted easily. Why keep her around and give her the ability to throw a wrench in the plan?
Amber then would be the next one out the door, followed by Jameka (right before she gains the ability to compete for HOH's), then get Zack out. Danielle should just trust Eric and Jessica, not only because that is the best alliance ever, but also because it is in Eric and Jessica's best interest to keep Danielle and Dick around.
I got to thinking about it, and if Jameka goes, Amber will lose her mind. If Jen goes, everyone will be happy. Most of the conversations seem to be about how much Jen is disliked. Either one of them, it's a win/win.
Jameka is no threat right now because she can't compete. Jen is a big threat and it would make sense to get rid of her. No one knows where her loyalty lies.
Dani can use Amber for a week and then try to win HOH to keep the power and nominate Whamber and Jameka.
I really do hope that Zach or Dick wins HOH this week. I don't completely trust Eric or Jess. Well even if we can control Eric's decisions to some extent.
Anonymous at 12:49pm --> what do you mean that Jameka does not have voting rights?
The final 4 should preferably be Dick, Eric, Zach and Jen - way more fun and strategic game ahead.
How can the public make this happen?
Maximize its role via AP, i.e. getting Eric to get jameka out, then Amber.
Zach will be the deciding factor to split either D&D or E&J.
Supercool twist!
The public will be the real BB, not CBS!
....DOUBLE EVICTION THIS WEEK PLEASE!!! That way MAYBE they BOTH can GO!!!
I have been thinking about this and even though I'd like to keep Jen for my viewing pleasure... if I were Dani, I would
Evict Jen.
1. She is a fierce competitor and now out to get even with Dani. Dick has always been on her radar.
2. Jen can float either way... except for with Dick. Not good for Dani, as far as numbers.
Reason to keep the God Squad another week... Jameka no HOH and no power. Amber won't target Dani, and possibly not Dick... if she wins. Zach won't target Dani or Dick. Eric and Jess most likely will wait one more week to stab another alliance in the back. They need numbers...
So... that means no more Jen.
I KNOW NICK LOVES THAT MOVE!
POV next week will be fascinating - I bet it will be another back-door scheme.
This is a really good move for Daniele as an individual. With Jen out, the target gets a little bit bigger on Dick. Jameka & Amber are still on the outside looking in. They haven't even figured out how that happened yet, which makes it improbable for them to change it. Once Amber inevitably gets eliminated from HOH comp this Thursday, everyone else will do their best to throw it Zach's way.(ensuring a painless Jameka & Amber nomination that week) That's why I think they will do an answer question right,get to knock out competitor or an endurance HOH this week.
I am not a big fan of Jen's except for how she deals with stuff thrown her way. She is not a victim that is for sure. However, this time she'll be a goner. Votes to get her out... Zach, Dick, Amber. That makes the AP vote and Jessica's vote of non importance.
As for HG being mature enough for the game. At least Dani has taken risks... that is more than for example Jessica. Jessica would be lost w/o Eric's input. She has even said so herself. Dani is stubbornly independent and only asks for advise to throw her own ideas around. If nothing else, she learned from being a follower in Nick's eviction. That caused her sorrow.
I do not understand the argument about Jameka beating 'anybody in the Final 2'. Everyone sees Jameka as a floater and a nice person who does not use much strategy. In the final 2, the jury will vote for the best strategic person, not the best person. These people are not dumb enough to vote for someone in the jury because they are 'nice'. Whoever is up against Meka will have an easy shot of winning.
Jen is a threat in the game moreso than Jameka. I think America will vote to evict Jameka though because she is black, and the producers will swing the other votes in Jen's favor.
Great insight, Tella.
It would change the dynamics if AP/ Eric gets Zach to vote Jameka out, leaving Dick and Amber voting for Jen.
With a new alliance of Jen, Zach, Eric and Jess, the game becomes more open with HoH and PoV competitions way more exciting for this week.
If Jameka sticks around in the fianl four, she will win the big prize. Yet she does not deserve it - she made no big move or had no impact in shifting the game.
The risk-takers and competition winners should be "rewarded": Dick, Dani, Eric and Jen. Out with Jess, Amber, Jameka and Zach.
Lanie,
It's not so much that Jameka's a nice person etc, it's like election time--you vote for the lesser of two evils--that's why you want to have a polarizing figure like an ED or Dani next to you, not a Jess or a Jameka, because the jurors will give you their vote in order to not give it to the other person.
mzz.. please avoid using all caps. it comes across as shouting.
And Lanie,
I don't think it's Jameka's race that will get her evicted (if America orders Eric to vote for her), I think it'll be a combo of her Turd Herd affiliation (specifically to Dustin and Amber), her anti-ED comments in DR, her fervent religious behavior (lots of folks don't like the whole God/religion aspect to her game) and her self-righteousness.
loving this discussion, btw... :)
I agree whole heartedly! I was wondering why Dani wanted to save Amber and get Jen out. I totally see Eric & Jess getting back with Amber & Jameka! Big mistake Dani!!
I love Dani & Dick hopefully they will think things through and choose carefully who they want to target this time!
Cliff!! I've been waiting for you. I'm sorry hon. Chin up. Eric worked a miracle 2 weeks ago, Dick last week. Now it's all up to your girl.
One last thing that popped into my mind regarding why it isn't a race thing. Jameka hasn't once been even on America's radar regarding who Eric should target for eviction so I doubt it's a race issue.
(In a broader scheme to the show it definitely is a race issue. Just the fact that there were one African-American, two half-Latinas, no Asians or Middle Easterners (what up, Kaysar!) points to something fishy in Allison Grodner Production. Perhaps that's a place BB could learn a little something from Survivor...)
If Dani or Dick don't win HOH Thursday.. I think they are both toast. They worked so hard last week to save themselves and now they are using their success to evict the wrong person. At least Jen was willing to work with Dani and she proved that last week in her vote. Now she is scorned and they have a new enemy to contend with. Jen could now align with Eric Jess and Amber against Dick and Dani If she stays. Zak could swing with the majority vote. They need HOH or POV again this week to stay in the game. Dani's move was pretty dumb. She is making her decisions on a personal level now even though during the nomination ceremony she says she doesn't. How dumb to trust Amber too to keep a secret. Dani should have never said a thing to Amber. There was no need to tell her she was coming off the block. Totally dumb move.. May be the set up for a slam dunk to evict Dick and Dani down the road..I certainly hope not. They should have let the nominations stand.
Jameka should go because it has been preordained by the unicorns in the sky.
The will of the Magic Unicorns shall not be mocked!
all hail the magic ping pong ball.
i'm sad. i wanted jen around longer. i really don't like dani anymore and don't care about ed anymore. they could have kept their word one week for jen, she saved ed. they're all losers. jen keeps it interesting by balancing the others. she's the one who has shown grace under ongoing abuse from ed, keeping up positive spirits while dani whines and whines. dani couldn't handle to ongoing negativity that jen has had to with no allies. i'm sorry i voted to have eric get rid of dustin.
Glen...
Jen voted for Dustin to go, because Jessica told her to. She certainly wasn't doing it for Dick (or even Dani). Jen has shown to be aligning herself with whomever is in the HOH each week. Previous to this strategy, she was openly gunning for D & D (her only HOH reign should be an indication of her goals in the house).
This was a great strategic move by Daniele.
For Dani to want to save Amber is so out of no where it makes me wonder if there is something more to those two (some how knew eachother before)
I really want Jam gone but to keep D&D safe I think my vote is going to Jen. Which makes me very sad she's my 3rd fave.
i think i would keep Jameka just because she cant participate in HoH, does this make since to anyone ????.....get rid of her later, if its not too late
If I'm Eric/Jess I want Jen gone unless I could make a deal with her, however it would be stupid going against Dick/Dani at this point.
If I'm Dani/Dick I want Jen gone with the hopes that Amber will will put up Eric/Jess next week.
i agree with you on both ends..after hearing jess and eric last night the smartest move would have been to remove either Jess or Eric thus limiting the LNC and making the alliance with amber like she did but saying if i get rid of eric it weakens jess and you are with us. that kinda thing. He and jess are more dangerous than any of the rest left. i think it's downhill for our donatos sadly.
I think it's time for Jen to hit the road! She is a competitor. She could win the next HOH and then it's bye bye Dani. So, get her out while they have the chance! Everyone vote for Eric to get Jen evicted. He's pretty good at convincing Jess, so that's at least three with Dick on their side!
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