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Tuesday, September 18, 2007

No More Sour Grapes

What an incredible season of Big Brother. Having watched it all, from start to finish, I couldn't have planned it much better if I'd written the script. Father - Daughter reconciliation, masterful manipulation, romance, intrigue and full participation by the viewers.

Personally, I'm already thrilled with the outcome, and the "winner" is not so important to me. I think they both won... in the big picture.

True, I would have loved to have seen Eric and Jessica with Dick and Daniele in the Final 4, but we can't always get what we want. I'm still more than content.

We could debate until we're blue who is most deserving, who is most true, who lied the least, who was most vile, who would or wouldn't have betrayed an alliance, but really, there's no use to that. It doesn't matter in the least, and it's all conjecture.

When all is said and done, it's a game. It's a great game. We have a final 2, and they fought the hardest and are the most deserving final 2 Big Brother has seen in years. That's not even slightly debatable. Look at the header and check the stats if you need a little more confirmation.

Interestingly, Aldav has Dani for the win. Personally, I stink at predictions, so I'm not gonna even try...


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58 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Will ALL the HG's be returning for tonight's finale?

Wouldn't it be great if who ever wins, whether it's D or D that they split the difference? $250K to each! I know that's not the way the show awards the money! But once you've got it - who knows what you do with the cash!! I think that would really make the other D feel like it was a 50/50 alliance, 'cause no matter how you slice it - technically, one's a winnner and one's not! (I hate the word loser)

Got my fingers crossed that they are as happy at 9pm as they were this morning!

12:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hear hear! very true, couldn't have said it better myself.

12:48 PM  
Blogger Evel Girl said...

I agree. I just love the Donatos.

12:51 PM  
Blogger Shana May said...

My understanding from the interview with AG on housecalls is that they are not allowed to actually split the prize. They are allowed to buy each other gifts, but not write one another a check. I guess they could buy something really expensive for the other, then that person could turn around and sell it to get the cash. But technically they can't split the winnings :)

12:52 PM  
Anonymous elliemannequin said...

this season was truly one to remember
and i coudlnt agree more with you carolyn, these two are the most deserving, and who ever wins wont matter, they are both winners.

on a side note, i'd like to thank you (carolyn) for your site and your hard work, its much appreciated! There is no site i would have rather spent the summer with!! Until next year!

Eliie

12:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

AMEN Carolyn...
It was a great finish... unlike the last few years....
So does this mean the "mean people" won the game??? LOL
I'm not sure if Aldav is correct..
I think it may be Dick winning the game... and I know he will be give something to Dani.. not so sure Dani would do the same for her Dad.. but I love Dani anyway, she is a "good" person!!!!
Again, thanks for all the bloggin'... would not of been the same without you everyday....

Debi (-:

12:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This has been a great season of BB8! Thanks again for keeping up this site as I know that it takes so much time and energy to keep it updated.

I could not agree more, this has been the perfect ending with D & D in the final 2. I love the Donatos and will miss seeing them on TV!

1:05 PM  
Blogger Brooks said...

i bet if dick wins, he buys daniele a reallly nice car. such a good dad!

1:19 PM  
Anonymous that guy said...

"We have a final 2, and they fought the hardest and are the most deserving final 2 Big Brother has seen in years. That's not even slightly debatable. Look at the header and check the stats if you need a little more confirmation."

A-freakin'-men to Jameeka's god on that.

I think Dani is the most deserving, but think Dick will get the bitter jury's votes. Jess, Jen, Jameeka and Amber will fulfill the prophecy of Cliff (females hatin' on females) and make sure of it. Instead, they should respect her game and crown her for it.

1:25 PM  
Blogger kathyg722 said...

Yes great season! Thanks for giving me a great place to visit each day. I too would have loved the EJDD final 4, with Eric winning lol but no sour grapes, I am looking forward to tonight. Good luck Dick fans!

1:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok, as I said in earlier post on another comment, congrats D&D and all fans.

But, no sour grapes means no more bashing the favorites of us losers either.

I still want a group hug!

1:35 PM  
Blogger Spot said...

I hope Dick wins the big money. $250,000 is far too much money for someone as immature as Dani to win ... not that Dick is so much more mature. =)~ Dani will have enough to pay off any student loans and other bills. Besides, I'm sure dear old Daddy will share some of his winnings with her.

Side note: I have watched every season of BB from the very beginning. This is the first season I've bothered to look for spoilers or fellow addicts. I want to thank all contributors to this site for a most pleasurable experience. I will be back here next season. Until then ...

1:36 PM  
Anonymous that guy said...

"My understanding from the interview with AG on housecalls is that they are not allowed to actually split the prize."

I'm surprised this wasn't brought up earlier. In the contracts they sign it EXPLICITLY states that you cannot conspire to split the money with another contestant.

It's also the reason (I believe) that Daniele said "no" to splitting the money (in the weight room convo with Dick a few weeks back that people got upset over). I think others were reprimanded on prior seasons of BB for discussing it. You're not supposed to talk about it. You're not supposed to do it. It's the standard clause on all reality shows.

I mean, I can see how this situation would be slightly different, but...

1:38 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

i'm all over the group hug! ;)

1:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dick will be victorious 4-3 vote. The winning vote will come from Eric. Jen, Jameka, and Jess will vote for Dani. Dustin, Amber, and Zach will vote for Dick- for his great gameplay. Eric will be the deciding vote, and I think AmERICa will vote Dick. Just my 2 cents.
~jenn/jem925/canezjem/evilbitch/
eviljem in FL

1:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi, my name is Deb and I'm a BB addict.

Oops, sorry! Just thinking aloud and practicing for tomorrow.

1:48 PM  
Anonymous deb said...

I'm not a betting woman BUT, and no offense to the rest of my sex, I think woman are more vindictive than men. With that in mind, I see more of the women voting for Dick........yes, even Jen. I think she might tolerate his behavior more than Dani's immoral behavior (her words, not mine)-LOL!!!

I guess I should duck after saying that but come on.......if my fellow women had to fight (not physically) with someone would you rather fight with a woman or a man? Be honest!! Men fight and get over things; women never forget. Please note: This is my personal opinion and it should not reflect on Carolyn or this blog!

As far as sharing the money, I think since this is a familial thing it may not matter legally if Dick were to give Dani money. It has to be over a certain amount before it has to be reported to the IRS and I'm guessing he could give it to her in chunks so it didn't have to be reported (ducking any IRS agents out there).

Gosh, I sure am ducking alot. No offense intended to anyone. I've loved the whole season and I think after reading a few other BB websites yesterday that this one far surpasses the rest. I can't believe how hateful and nasty some people can get and it makes this site even more refreshing........thanks Carolyn. Thanks to everyone else for being such good sports about it all as well.

Deb in WA.....who can't wait for the time to pass.

1:51 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

I can't help but wonder if they're gonna do some crazy text vote only vote in tonight...

Remember, the vote last time was only for who should Eric push for... not who is he voting for.

1:51 PM  
Blogger Beth & Eric said...

I can't tell if I'm totally depressed that the Season is ending? Or if I'm relieved to have one less addiction in my life? Ha ha!

Love to all, and I can't wait to chat after the Show tonight!!!

1:52 PM  
Blogger amber lee said...

Truly a great season of Big Brother! It's amazing to me that not one, but TWO twists made it to the end, father/daughter and America's Player (to be revealed later of course). I'm really excited about the show tonight and the live feed coverage.
(((((BB8Dish Bloggers)))))
And That's That!

1:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think aldav is wrong! Think Dick will get Eric, Zach, and Dustin for sure. Probably Jessica and Amber. Biggest improbabilities for Dick:

Jameeka and Jen

1:59 PM  
Anonymous Fable said...

Gals,
I just have to do the Dick clap for you 2 awesome chicks maintaining a wonderful blog for us to play catch up on everything BB8.
I can't tell you how many times I threw out your blog while in chats in Live Feeds.
I'm going to miss reading your witty and precised play by plays with everything.
Thank you soooo much.
Also a huge shout out to all contributers who helped the girls with vids and such.

1:59 PM  
Anonymous deb said...

Carolyn said: Remember, the vote last time was only for who should Eric push for... not who is he voting for.

Wow Carolyn, I guess I need to go watch the House Calls episode with AG again. I could have sworn she said Eric's vote was OUR vote in the final, meaning America's. She also said that if he did vote against us, he'd lose all the money he'd earned to date.

This could really throw things for a loop.

Deb in WA

2:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Carolyn, The last CBS AP vote was for BOTH... who Eric has to campaign for and then subsequently vote for.

- KC

2:05 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

KC - are you 100% positive?

2:08 PM  
Anonymous Codinome said...

Very cool. A tour of this season's sequester house. (From the realtor)

FYI: It's not in Mexico. It's in Simi Valley, California. 10 bedrooms. 10.5 baths. And you can buy it for about $8.9 million dollars!

Keller Realty (virtual tour of BB sequester house)

2:10 PM  
Blogger Heidi Petrelli said...

At this point-it doesn't matter who wins.
No, this isn't sour grapes. I am watching Court Tv and the trial
I am watching has a hung jury.
I want to see a non- hung jury tonight!!!! ARGH
Ok, calm now=)
Looking forward to tonight!

2:13 PM  
Blogger Evel Girl said...

Thanks Codinome! That house is really incredible.

2:15 PM  
Anonymous Codinome said...

FOX REALITY CHANNEL is sponsoring their 2007 Really Awards. Viewers are invited to logon to their website and vote for the most memorable reality tv star of this year.

Evel Dick is nominated.

You can visit the Fox Really Awards 2007 website and cast your vote.

--Codinome

2:23 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

hey codi - look right above the google search box :P

i'm on the ball. i swear it. on amber's....

2:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cecilia here-3 and a half hours to go Carolyn I can barely stand it well without anything going on in the house I have been able to clean my own lol and have only checked your site about 4 times today instead of the usual 30 lol! I shall miss you and hey what happened to Cliff he has not been around for a while ???????

2:28 PM  
Anonymous Codinome said...

@ Carolyn: Amber's daughter or dog?

But, of course, Amber says there's no difference.

:P


@ Evel Girl: You're most welcome!

:)

2:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

bb8dish replaced the official cbs page as my go-to source for scoop and poop

i'll be back

2:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Carolyn, Final AP vote question was:

"Who do you want Eric to campaign and vote for to win Big Brother 8?"

- KC

2:43 PM  
Anonymous Linda in Boston said...

I have lurked all summer and want ot give out a big TY to Carolyn, PS I too am on 3FC too :)

I don't really know how the votes will go, but I would bet that Jen will not vote for Dick. I will eat my words for sure, but i can't see it, even if she is the only non vote for Dick.

I am looking forward to the AP reveal toight, I don't really care who wins.

The house is nice, it was fun to see it...

2:44 PM  
Blogger Evel Girl said...

Codinome- I hope she isn't confused when she feeds them. You could have a dog with a pizza and a little girl with pupperoni's :)

2:50 PM  
Anonymous cai said...

Deb in WA - i'll duck with you... i also think majority of the women HGs will vote against Dani. Cliff got it right with his analysis of women's crab mentality, which is sad.

fortunately, i think bb8dish brought together women who are a departure from that... =)

as for the price money, i wonder how much will it be after state and federal taxes? i assume it wouldn't really be that much. but at least they are now talking...

3:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You couldn't have said that any more beautifully Carolyn... I soooo agree.

It really is the most memorable Big Brother I can remember. Sure there are some outstanding moments in BB's years gone by that I think we'll all remember... But this year, so many of those moments string together - into a whole summer!

For my BB experience this summer, the credit goes to you.

You've created an environment and a consistency here, worthy being a #1 community. That takes someone *very* special!

And your read on the human/social dynamic is extraordinary! I'm sure it's what many of your "creatures" are here for. Add to that your writing style... I hope you *are* writing scripts!!

For the Finale' tonight, my fingers are still crossed that Endemol/CBS allows us to "expect the unexpected" ...and names/$$s BOTH Dick & Dani First Place Winners!

sts

3:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am just now watching last nites Sho2 and DD are still talking about the car for AP. Surely they will be happy when the money is awarded and not get too caught up in disappointment over no car.

3:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not bashing or hating, but I don't understand why anyone thinks they would announce them a co-winners?

If they planned to do that for any of the enemy teams they set up, you can bet they would have used that for all the publicity they could as the season went on.

Doing it at this point unannounced would not be fair at all to the other HGs.

Really not trying to cause an uproar here since I'm feeling the love today ... it's just my humble opinion.

3:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not to be mean Carolyn but everything is arguable. Even though their stats are nice one also has to take into account the other people they had to compete against. Its very irrelevant but I'm not sure a lot of them could have won competitions if they were the only one playing. But its also been stated the competitions are nice and its nice winning them but they aren't what wins the game, but instead of what keeps you in no matter what at that time. You truly can't say without a doubt the best there has been in a few years when they haven't been up against the best.

Now because I'm not trying to bash them they done a great job as a team but I'd love to see them alone just like I'd love to see Will and Boogie go it alone to see if they can even come close or if they are team only players.

Maybe after five more years they can do BB14 allstar and we can then see them again. and then following that maybe a Best of the Best and take from the two allstar shows.

But none the less Great job Dick and Danielle. Lets hope for more and more better seasons to come.

3:57 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

anon@3:57 true, everything is arguable. there's just no point.

4:08 PM  
Anonymous deb said...

Newbie question on AP & car. Does AP mean two different things? I know Eric is America's Player (AP), but the way it's being used in context it sounds like it's more America's Choice. I'm not familar with whatever term goes with the winner of the car so can someone please clear this up for me.

I know on the CBS website Dick is way ahead (and has been with the exception of last week) in the Love 'Em or Leave 'Em poll so I assumed that was the one for America's vote for most popular player. Ohhhhh, I'm so confused-LOL!!! Help!

Deb in WA

4:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

LOL Carolyn!

Anon@3:54 (3:57) If all of the polls measure only a negligable difference in votes between D&D, don't ya hafta sorta call "a draw"?

sts

4:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Plain and simple..Dick played a better game! He deserves to win and Saying I am NOT a fan is an understatement. But I give credit where credit is due. He belittled, criticized and spoke of ill of everyone in that house....TO THEIR FACE...and they kept him in for his bullying tactics. He deserves to win because he didn't win as many POV's to save himself from the block, yet STILL managed to convince these people to keep him and send their own Alliance member home. SUPER GAME PLAY. GAME OVER. DICK WINS!

4:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

sts -- Sorry, I was talking about announcing them as the co-winners of BB8 and $500K for each. Polls don't play into that at all.

If you were referring to AC, sorry I was confused.

But, I don't think there's going to be an AC choice -- I think the AP twist was our choice. And if they do for some reason, wouldn't it have been a vote as in past years and not just the CBS poll? They would have surely advertised that -- CBS is not going to miss an opportunity to bring as many people to their site as possible.

4:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon @ 4:43 -- Not a Dick fan either, but you are 100% right!

Ouch that hurt! Please don't make me say anything nice about Dick again! hehehehehe

4:47 PM  
Anonymous deb said...

Thanks for the explanation sts. It's tough bein' a newbie-LOL!!

Ohmygosh you anons are killin' me being so nice to Dick when it's so obvious how you both feel. Good for you and thanks for a great laugh.

I'm bummed. I thought the show started at 5 ET/8 PT and it's an hour later. Argh, what am I gonna do for a whole nother hour.

Deb in WA

4:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

deb -- Glad we could bring a laugh. That makes it worth it (but it really did hurt).

5:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

quite true Carolyn its not worth it being whats done is done no changing things like it or hate it, it is what it is. Those that like it enjoy, those that don't, remember there is alway next season. One must also remember its but a game on TV, it no more makes us or breaks us but instead just entertains us (well some of us).

anon@3:57

5:08 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

thank you for making nice and not making me referee on the night of the finale.

5:10 PM  
Anonymous MaryAnne said...

Why is it that a few dick-haters say something nice and credit him with a good game and that is bashed?

Can't hate, Can't give credit where credit is due....

5:20 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

nobody's being bashed, period.

5:24 PM  
Anonymous Trisha said...

That is so TRUE!!! They both played hard, and with each other in the house with all of there problems from the outside world. They came through it together, and it wan't easy. It wasn't easy as a viewer to watch some of it, just imagine how hard it was for them. We watched them fight, cry, hurt, laugh, and most of all WIN it all. This was the BEST season in my eyes, and I have watched them all. I have alot of respect for the both of them as far as where they are, and how they got there. None of it matters... they won it all, and they did it together. I don't think ANYTHING will break there bond after this!!!! WAY TO GO D&D

5:27 PM  
Anonymous Trisha said...

Thanks again Carolyn for all that you have done to keep us entertained, and informed this season. I love your site, and think you are great! I will hope to see you back for BBP :)

5:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not to argue or bash at all. I have no respect for either DD, but then I really don't know them so that is probably not fair. And in all honestly, they probably don't give a hoot how I feel .. that's also fair.

This is a game and the only goal of this game is to make it the end. They did that -- they won.

If I hated the game, I wouldn't be here tonight. But I love it and so I am here.

And Carolyn -- the group is not cooperating. I really do think we still need that group hug!

5:37 PM  
Anonymous Tella said...

Carolyn,

If for any reason CBS decides that America does not include the West in the voting process... I will sue their ass for whatever... OK. Kidding aside, there is no way they could get away with such a blatant hinky vote... since we are talking about major $$$ in winnings here. When they did it last time it didn't really matter.

Now to anon re. Group Hug... if you are the same who mentioned it under another heading earlier today...

I surrender. I give into that what will be will be. And that's that.

Thanks y'all for a memorable summer.

((BB8Dish))

5:39 PM  
Anonymous Tella said...

Anon 5.37PM

See, we are all like a group of cats... try to herd them around.

"It's not gonna happen"

;-))

5:42 PM  

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